An interesting post in the facebook group Divine Mercy Apostolate sparked an interesting debate. Well the poster did not want to listen or understand, but it’s good to clarify things like “the Rapture”.
The OP wrote “THE RAPTURE IS COMING VERY SOON!!…… WHERE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN WILL BE TAKEN AWAY WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT…..AND THERE WILL BE TERRIBLE DARKNESS AND TRIBULATION TAKING PLACE ON EARTH……BELIEVE ME!!!! THIS IS NOT SCARE MONGERING!!!…….THE SCRIPTURES HAS TO BE FULLFILLED!! ARE YOU READY??? THATS MY $100 MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION????????”
Answer: The truth is there is no rapture. Rapture is just bad science fiction.
The source is not theological at all.
Read “the rapture trap”, it’s by catholic theologians. (see the link below)
There is nowhere in the Bible that says that Christ will come again a third time. That’s just science fiction plain and simple.
A rapture needs a third coming of Jesus, which is unscriptural.
The Rapture was invented by protestants in a fiction of theirs, and by two catholic priests had the same idea in another book they wrote.
It makes for a nice book to read, or a cool movie, but it’s not real!
OP answered “Whats in the Scripture is in the Scripture……it does not come from me Thessalonians 4:16-17…. we do not change it!..I am a Catholic…….I go along with the word of GOD which is the HOLY BIBLE…….”
Answer: But Thessalonians 4:16-17 in the Bible is about the 2nd coming of Christ, not a Third coming! Third coming (because of a 2nd coming for the “RAPTURE”) makes no sense and is not in the Bible!
Rapture means Jesus comes back for Christians and then leaves the world to fight the antichrist. Following that years later He comes back in a Third coming. This is all unscriptural!
Since the Catholic Church never taught about any Rapture, it would make more sense not to believe in any such stupidity.
The OP said third coming because he was talking about the Rapture. The Rapture means there is a 2nd coming of Jesus for the Rapture,and a 3rd coming for Judgement.
I stand by the saints and the Popes who NEVER SAID THERE WILL BE A RAPTURE. The rapture is unscriptural and the church does not believe in it. It is NOWHERE in the bible. Can it be more clear?
In 1977 two Catholic priests wrote a book called THE RAPTURED. It was FICTION. Get it, it’s fiction, it’s not real.
It runs counter to all Catholic teaching and living tradition. It has lack of revential reasoning and misuses scripture.
The whole rapture myth is nonsense. When you think it requires two world cataclysms, one against the antichrist at the 2nd coming and one against Satan (or the Antichrist redux) at the 3rd coming.. Nowhere in Scripture is a 3rd coming of Christ called for. Thus it is just fantasy and totally wrong.
Sorry but talk of a “secret rapture” for Christians is just nonsense!
The concept of the rapture says that Christians world wide will be taken by Christ in a second coming of his NOT FOR JUDGEMENT. This is totally wrong. Christ is coming FOR JUDGEMENT in His Second Coming! And the rapture concept says that the abduction of Christians will cause massive turmoil worldwide and the Devil will take control of the world through his puppet the Antichrist. Later, after the tribulation ends, Christ is supposed to come back a THIRD TIME in a “glorious appearing” that will defeat evil and end history. This is plain rubbish, Jesus will not come back a THIRD TIME at all.
Instead Scripture predicts the SECOND COMING will NOT BE A SECRET “rapture”. The whole world will witness Christ coming back in Glory. We must follow the Church and its interpretation of these events. Read you catechism too. Don’t we pray in Church “Christ has died. Christ is risen. Christ will come again” ? It doesn’t say come again twice!
OP got angry then: “Hey Brass!!!…….you missing the point hia…… Rapture will take place that comes from the scripture and the Scripture has to be fullfilled……no matter what your interpretation says the word of GOD SAYS IT!! Wether you don’t believe it thats your perogative it won’t change the word of GOD IN THE HOLY BIBLE…….AND AS WE CAN SEE THE SCRIPTURE IS FULLFILLING ITSELF WITH MUSLIMS KILLING CHRISTIANS AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE SELF DESTRUCTING THEMSELVES!! So brass!!! we can argue all night it won’t get us anywhere! just stick to the main point that is HOLY SPIRIT THAT JESUS SEND TO HIS PEOPLE US CHRISTIAN’S….”
Answer: There is no Rapture in Scripture and the Church does not believe in the Rapture!
It is the interpretation of the Magisterium of the Church which matters, not YOUR or MY interpretation. Otherwise you would not be catholic. Again I ask you ARE YOU CATHOLIC and do you submit to the authority of the Catholic Church ? It does not seem like you do.
He kept shouting: “WHATEVER BRASS!!!…..WHAT THE HOLY BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD THATS FINAL……NOTHING GOING TO CHANGE THAT!…IAM A PRACTISING CATHOLIC AND STAND UP FOR ALL CHRISTIANS WHY IS THE CHURCH NOT SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THE PERSECUTION AND MURDERING OF OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS? BY THE muslims??…….CHRISTIANS ARE DYING DROVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST CHURCHES GETTING BURN DOWN WHERE IS THE VOICE OF THE CHURCH?……”
Answer: Murdering of Christians does not have anything to do with the subject of the rapture, with all due respect. And no the Word of God did not mention any rapture or 3 coming of Christ. At least the Bibles I have do not. Please do not shout here.
The 2nd coming is for the Judgement, but those who believe in the Rapture do not believe in this!
With the infamous “left behind” of the Rapture, the saved are taken up in the Rapture with Jesus while the damned are left behind. Poor guys. This is what the OP believes.
The OP needs to read the Book of Revelations which states quite clearly that the faithful are on earth during the tribulations!
God will be with the Church until the end and as he promised the gates of hell shall not prevail. Amen. Thus the rapture is false.
For more details I Recommend reading this excellent book which shows why catholics should not believe in the Rapture. (Not sure why he kept saying brass…)